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  • Lissa

    These are great tips for washing it out; lots I haven’t tried. Of course, the two cheapest oils… oh well. 

    Does anyone know why coconut oil in particular is such a pain to get out?

    • Katie

      I think it might be because it’s such a heavy oil?

      Maybe try taking the cheapo oils and mixing them with a lighter one. It may work?

      • Lissa

        Maybe. I don’t know, coconut oil has always seemed really light to me (when it’s warm enough to be liquid). I don’t have much experience with oils in larger amounts other than coconut oil, EVOO and castor oil; and compared to the latter two coconut oil is practically water! I have only used jojoba and sweet almond oil in teeny little drops, so it’s hard to tell how heavy they are.

        I do wonder if the fact that it’s solid at room temperature factors into the reason coconut oil is difficult to remove. I’ll have to experiment—and I will definitely be mixing oils. But I don’t want to give up on coconut oil quite yet!

  • Crunchy_Mama

    Okay, so I know that I said before (on your initial hair extravaganza post) that crunchy conditioning treatments don’t work for me and I asked for oil free help. But, after reading this post I am going to give hot oil packs another try. I have used olive oil or coconut oil in the past, and as you said, it works terribly if you are no ‘poo. I’ll give it a go with jojoba, and I just happen to have some Aubrey Organics shampoo that I use for my daughter so I’ll use that to wash out the oil. 

    I’ll report back with the results! Cross your crunchy fingers!

  • Harriet Perkins

    For people that don’t use shampoo, if it’s just the shampoo they have the problem with and not using conventional products, any light conditioner will get it out, but can without shampoo frequent use can cause build up if the conditioner contains non-water soluble parts such as silicones. Most really (really) cheap own brand conditioners are fine. (e.g. in uk, Tesco value conditioner. 11p for 500ml.)

  • Katie

    Hmm… I don’t use shampoo, and my hot oil treatments are almost exclusively olive oil and coconut oil. 

    Then, I wash it out like I wash my face: honey!

    I find that unpasteurized honey makes for the VERY BEST cleansing method. Sometimes I mix it with equal parts vegetable glycerine. I don’t need much (a tsp. of each for shoulder length hair), and just use the mixture on my scalp. I massage it in JUST like you mentioned above, Leslie, and then rinse.

    No heavy oils weighing me down… just super happy hair <3

    • Lissa

      I will have to try this. Just checking—you use the honey in the shower after rinsing a bit? I once misread directions for a honey…thing (I’m not sure it had a name, actually) and ended up applying it like conditioner, and it dissolved pretty much as soon as I put it on my wet hair. Does the oil change this? Or did you do it before the water? Or does it work even though it’s not sticky anymore? 

      I am super excited about this, because usually I feel like I’m being counterproductive, scouring my head with baking soda and soap after the nice nourishing oil. Plus, honey!
      PS: Oh, hi! Nothing like a two-tiered conversation! :)

    • Sarah Beam

      Ooooo, really?  I use honey on my face (thank you, Crunchy Betty), but I had not tried it on my hair yet.  I am so gonna give that a shot now.

    • Tmarks

      I actually started adding honey to my BS wash a few months ago when the “washing your face with honey” challenge came out. I figured it would be good for my hair since its good for my skin). I’ve gotten to the point where I use 1 tsp-ish of BS, 1-2 tsp of honey, 2 drops of neem oil, and a few drops of whatever essential oils I’m in the mood for. I put it all in a jar with 8 oz hot water and swish until everything is dissolved. I pour it on my head in sections and scrub a bit, then clip my hair up on my scalp while I shave my under arms and legs. Rinse it out, followed by an ACV rinse, and voila! Add 1tsp of coconut or avocado oil to my hair (not at the scalp) as a leave-in conditioner and go about life feeling good about my choices! I only need to do this 2 times a week.

    • Anonymous

      I’m going to try this too!  I’d much rather oil and honey than to follow up with baking soda and soap.

  • Anonymous

    Interesting.  I have superfine blonde hair, which tends towards oily (although not nearly as bad as it was before no ‘poo).  When I’ve done a serious oil treatment I’ve found that BS alone doesn’t get it out, and soap alone won’t get it out, but if I rinse with BS first, following it up with soap does the trick.  It’s like they need to work together. 

    I also found that jojoba was harder to get out, and coconut has always worked well for me since then.  I guess we all have different experiences (and different tolerances hehe).  Coconut oil seems to be the cure-all for my hair.  Flaky scalp?  Coconut oil.  Dry?  Coconut oil.  Producing too much sebum?  Coconut oil.  Bored?  Coconut oil!  :-D

  • http://meremonti.wordpress.com/ Meredith

    I’m nervous and excited to try this…I’ve been using castille soap as shampoo so maybe I’ll –gasp! — use real shampoo the one or two times a month I treat myself to a hot oil treatment. :)  

  • Maggie

    I’ve found, as a no ‘poo person, that I can get coconut oil out of my hair reliably by “shampooing” twice with a paste made from castille soap and baking soda. I have thick, wavy hair that gets oily pretty quickly. You’ll need to follow up with a pretty good conditioner- I make an herb-infused flaxseed gel that my hair LOVES.

    • Anonymous

      Tell us about the flaxseed gel! :)

      • Maggie

        Certainly! I found a link to this recipe in the comments on the flaxseed hair gel post, and I’ve been using it for months with fatastic results. I keep it in and old shampoo bottle in the fridge, and it lasts me about three weeks.

        http://no-poo.livejournal.com/365014.html

        • Anonymous

          I made the flaxseed gel shampoo last night!  I tried it out this morning, which was probably a bad idea because I had put coconut oil in yesterday, so I required more than just your average wash.  I tried the flaxseed first, and my hair still felt oily afterwards.  So I gave a good going over with my BS mixture (1tbs:3cup) and it felt improved.  I gave it another round of flaxseed gel and it seemed to have lost its oiliness (but after I’ve been at it for a while I start to lose sense of what’s oily and what’s normal!).  I then did a lemon juice/chamomile/water rinse (left it in for a minute) and that was it.  My hair dried quickly and is clean, shiny and soft!!  Doesn’t feel dry or heavy at all.  There is a slightly less clean part at the back, but I’m putting that down to “missing a bit”.  Overall, very happy, and I can’t wait to try it on a ‘normal’ wash (ie. not following an oil treatment).  Yay!!  Thanks for the inspiration Maggie.

          • Maggie

            I’m glad you like it! ^_^ I’ve been using it as a conditioner, but I have some baking soda build up so I’m going to try using it as my sole hair cleansing method next time.

  • Sarah Beam

    Ah, I’ve been running into problems with hot oil and no-poo, and I was seriously expecting you to swoop in and solve all my problems.  Dangit.  Before I shower, every single time, I take a small amount of jojoba oil and massage my scalp, and that generally washes out well with my baking soda and water “no-poo” solution.  But lately I have noticed my hair is breaking a lot, and since I don’t particularly care for these new bangs I seem to be ending up with, I have tried using hot sesame oil, and it most certainly DOES NOT wash out well with the baking soda & water solution.

    Woe, I say.

    I guess for now, I will stick with jojoba oil since it does tend to wash out fairly easily, but I am highly tempted to buy an organic shampoo just so I can do the full hot oil that you recommend.  All those herbs sounds looooooovely.

    • Anonymous

      Do you mean that you wash your hair (with BS) every day?  I always had oily hair and was washing it every day with regular shamp/cond.  When I went no ‘poo, I was trying to extend it out to every second day.  After a while I found my hair was breaking a lot, so I thought the BS might be drying it out.  I now only do it once a week maximum, and put a little coconut oil in when I can to stop it from drying out.  I cycle and wear a helmet a lot, so I have a sweatier head than most.  I give my hair a rinse and a scrub with just water maybe every 2nd or 3rd day to get the saltiness/sweatiness out of it.  It won’t be “wear-out-able” after a plain rinse, but it’s noticeable softer and cleaner, so it’s good for another day or two of wearing it up.  If you’re washing it every day, I’d say try and do it less.  It might be less harsh than shampoo to use BS, but you’re still stripping the oils away to some degree, and the more you do that, the more your head makes more.

  • http://www.makeitbakeitbuyitfakeit.blogspot.com/ Stephanie

    Alrighty there, Crunchy Betty aka tress-goddess! I heated my oil blend, massaged it into my scalp, fought with the spastic wrap, and topped it with the hot towel, and waited an hour and a half. Then I shampoo’d twice with a sulfate-free sample I had (afraid that my coco-castile wouldn’t get the oil out). I went ahead and conditioned, then I scrunched, gelled, and waited for it to dry. It’s winter and took forever, but… I LOVE the results! Soft, shiny, bouncy, and super-moisturized. Once I get a proper shower-cap, I’ll be doing this at least once a month. But then, I may just get addicted to it and do it every week.

    • KarinSDCA

      My husband is on a business trip right now and I asked him to bring me home one from the hotel.

      • Stephanie

        THAT is a great idea!

  • http://www.skincareforyoursoul.com/ Camille

    Positively indulgent! I’m whipping up a batch right now! Thanks for the inspiration!

  • Samantha Song

    Hi Crunchybetty, I have a question. In your perivous post, you said to use low heat setting when infusing the oil with herbs then add essential oil at last. I understand we don’t want to heat up the oil and the essential oil.  But here, we are “heating up” the oil…is this process gona make us lose the beneift of the oils? I am so confused….

  • Rupunzlemom

    I am wondering if anyone has tried the Rhassoul clay to get the oil out of their hair.  I have done oil treatments and hate having to use shampoo to get the oil out.  One thing that I have done is to do my oil treatment when I know I will have several days at home.  Then when I wash my hair with my ‘no_poo’ borax water it doesn’t matter if it gets super clean because the next time I wash it in a day or two I will get more of the oil out and my hair benefits from the oil being on it longer. 
    I am waiting for some Rhassoul clay so I can do and oil treatment and try the clay instead of shampoo.  I will post when I have results to share.

  • LarissaA

    can grape seed oil be used in the hair?

  • Amy

    I wish I would have read this post before tonight..
    Today was day 9 of no poo and I was pretty proud that I had made it this far without succumbing to the desire to reach for that shampoo bottle so that I could lather up. My hair has been adjusting, but it has felt really dry through this process, so tonight after cleansing my hair I decided to put some coconut oil on my hair to add a little moisture. BIG mistake! My hair looked like a bucket of fried chicken. I washed it twice with Dr Bonners and did an ACV rinse and it still looked like oil was going to start dripping off the ends of my hair. As a last resort I reached for that shampoo bottle and I still had to wash it twice to get the oil out. On the plus side, my hair is silky smooth — which feels pretty great after over a week of nasty looking, straw-feeling hair. Sadly, now I have to start the no poo thing all over again. Sigh…
    I think I would try an actual hot oil treatment again sometime in the future, but I definitely won’t use coconut oil…

    • Anonymous

      Don’t consider it a failure!  You just went 9 days without shampoo, that’s an awesome effort.  I reckon more people should try the no ‘poo thing by just reeling back the shampoo usage first, and then slowly changing over.  I went cold turkey and it was really hard at the time.  All good now though.  Keep at it, girl!

      • Amy

        Thank you for the encouragement! I’m gonna be stubborn and stick with it. I’ve had great results using the oil cleansing method on my face and so I’m determined to find a natural routine that will work for my hair.

  • Jasanna *

    I’m totally trying this and with coconut oill…..we’ll see. I hope I can get it out! :)
    http://munchtalk.blogspot.com/

  • Me

    Hi,
    I find the oiul is easier to rinse with just conditioner. Just mix a bit of condistioner 1:1 with water and use that for removing the oil, then 1 shampoo wash is plenty.

  • Crunchy_Mama

    Oh mon Dieu, quel désastre! I can’t get this stuff out of my hair :(  

    First I made a BS paste and massaged it into my scalp AND used Aubrey Organics shampoo on the rest of my hair. I also used Aubrey Organics conditioner and then an ACV rinse with cold water. I was hopeful but, nope, my hair was still covered in oil. Today I did it all over again, really working everything in. Still feels oily (although it isn’t dry yet so I don’t know just how oily it is). I really really hope I don’t have to use real shampoo to get this out. Anyone have any other suggestions for rinsing?

     I haven’t tried castile soap yet… I’m hoping for some miracle before I get heavy handed. But I’m guessing I already ruined my no ‘poo perfection with all the washing I’ve done in the last two days.

  • Crunchy_Mama

    Oh mon Dieu, quel désastre! I can’t get this stuff out of my hair :(  

    First I made a BS paste and massaged it into my scalp AND used Aubrey Organics shampoo on the rest of my hair. I also used Aubrey Organics conditioner and then an ACV rinse with cold water. I was hopeful but, nope, my hair was still covered in oil. Today I did it all over again, really working everything in. Still feels oily (although it isn’t dry yet so I don’t know just how oily it is). I really really hope I don’t have to use real shampoo to get this out. Anyone have any other suggestions for rinsing?

     I haven’t tried castile soap yet… I’m hoping for some miracle before I get heavy handed. But I’m guessing I already ruined my no ‘poo perfection with all the washing I’ve done in the last two days.

  • Guest

    I once misguided-ly put coconut oil on my hair (I’m no-poo), and I found that shikakai does a good job of getting it out, as long as you really get it all over the oily parts.

  • Ecobuzz531

    have you tried ” Everyday Shea ” shampoo or ” Alaffia ” skincare?

  • Anonymous

    Hello :) My name is Allie.  I’m a long time follower and first time poster.  I’m writing this as I have a hot towel wrapped in my hair waiting for the oils to do their magic.  I did mine with castor/coconut/hemp.  I was wondering if you have ever experimented with hemp seed oil?  I personally LOVE it!  I use it for OCM and it’s wonderful and has a rating of 0 on the comedogenic scale.  The smell can be a little pungent for some as it is VERY grassy but you get used to it… Thanks for posting this, it’s so incredibly easy!  I didn’t infuse mine, just used the oils on their own because I was lazy but will try adding EO’s next time. Take care!

  • http://twitter.com/TipsNTrends4All FashionTipsAndTrends

    I have always thought hot oil therapy are sheer brilliance! Especially when you have hip length hair like mine. Have you also thought about black mud or volcanic mud therapy? :)  

    Best,
    Cindy
    http://www.fashion-tips-and-trends-for-all.com

  • Jen

    Thank you so much for this! I have been putting coconut oil on my hair, braiding it and sleeping in it, but heating it never occurred to me! My suggestion for how to occupy one’s time whilst sitting around with a towel on your head: give yourself a manicure, pedicure, facial… make it total home spa time. Which should also probably include a glass of wine and gourmet cheese to snack on.

    Also excited to try washing my face with honey and many of your other great tutorials. Awesome web site!!

  • The Happy Soaper

    I just discovered you today – coincidence?  I think not! Where have you BEEN all my life!?
    Just yesterday I was chatting about my homemade, natural soap and its ingredients, like coconut oil. My friend told me how her mom back in India used to apply warmed coconut oil to her hair and scalp, leave it in for 30 minutes, and then shampoo. My hair has been dry (baby, it’s cold outside, and DRY inside!), so I tried it, washing my hair with my own bar soap, and it turned out wonderful, with no problem washing out. I’m very interested in the no ‘poo idea, but how about natural, real bar soaps? Your thoughts? 

  • Rachel

    I am trying one right now! SO excited. What I did as well tho was I rubbed the strained herbs in with the oil that was on my hands and used it as a sugar scrub/ exfoliator. Massaged that all over them and up my arms for about 2 minutes and then rinsed and they now feel AMAZING. So I am chopping at the bit to see how my hair turns out. Thanks you sly fox you.

  • Kat

    Should you wash your hair first and apply the oil to wet hair, wet your hair without washing and then apply, or start with hair that is dry and unwashed?

    • bethany

      i think its totally better to just brush your hair straight back and start dry!! you dont want to wash your hair until the end of the process…hope this helps

  • Myjimmysruby

    Just tried this, liked it, but have a question: I put 3 different herbs in mine, horsetail, nettle and oatstraw. It seemed tho, I had more herbs than oil. If I aded more oil ( avacado) would it weaken the “serum?” I am seriously thinking of buying one of those old bonnet type “hair dryers” at our local Freds. Talk about some heat!

  • Lytlejoc

    Just discovered that a plastic produce bag can double as a shower cap. It’s much easier than plastic wrap! However, if you’re like me and just stuff these bags into a box as the food gets eaten up, you’ll probably want to turn it inside out before putting it on… unless you LIKE onion peels in your hair.

  • Brittany Barclay

    Would glycerin bar soap get oil out of hair good? More
    importantly, is glycerin bar soap even good for hair?

    Had some for a while but haven’t really used it on my hair. But
    I did just get some sweet almond oil on sale form mt rose herb, so I might add some
    rosemary EO and try this today.

  • MyBabyBunnies

    I wish there was instructions for the making of the oil and the how to do the HOT that was printable!!! I don’t wanna be scrolling on the computer when dealing w oil and water! (:

  • http://futureisfiction.com/blog daretoeatapeach

    Well I’m attempting this now. I used fresh mint and thyme (I meant to use rosemary but I always get their names confused) and then I added cinnamon, nutmeg and flax seeds. The oils I’m using are safflower, flax, sunflower and castor. After I had cooked this up for half an hour or so, I mixed it with a paste I’d made earlier this week of avocado banana and honey.

    The main problem I seem to be having is getting stuff hot enough. I poured boiling water onto the towel, but I got impatient and mixed in lukewarm tap water, did this three times (I do learn…but apparently not the first, second or third time) and the towel is too cold.

    Is the heat necessary for the process, or only a luxury?

  • http://futureisfiction.com/blog daretoeatapeach

    Follow up the next morning.

    I forgot to mention that I also added neem oil, which I had around for aphid genocide. Had no idea it was good for hair until I came to this site. Of all the things this site has convinced me to put on my face, natural insecticide would have to be the weirdest.

    Anyhow, next day, and my hair is still a bit wet (it’s very long and thick) but already I can tell it is much softer than it normally would be after using baking soda. I should add that I did my AC vinegar rinse, which also has a bit of conditioner and honey in it, and followed it up with another rinse of just conditioner and honey, and my hair doesn’t have any oily residue so far.