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  1. Oh I LOVE this one!! I can’t wait to see what happens!! I suffer from the exact same non-oven-cleaning disease that you do. Yay for Leslie! Forging new paths and showing the way for all who have an aversion to oven cleaning!!

  2. Love this! I cannot wait to see what happens. I have never cleaned an oven either!

  3. Loquamani

    Lots of ovens have a self-cleaning setting. Basically it locks the door, heats up as hot as it can for several hours, and burns anything in there to a fine ash that you can just vacuum out. It will make your place smell like you’re burning things, though, so it’s best done on a day you can open the windows. Find the oven’s make and model and look up its manual online for instructions for running the clean cycle.

    • Crunchy Betty

      Ah. Wish mine had that. Alas, it does not. And neither does my new one. Like Nicole said below, my “self-cleaning” option is that I clean it myself. Hehe.

  4. Kelly

    My mom once told me if you self-clean the oven with the racks still in they can get stuck. This may be your problem (former tennent?). Not that I would know because I’ve never cleaned an oven myself. I feel this is a safe place to share this fact.

    • Crunchy Betty

      Verrrry interesting. Although I figured it out. Someone had shoved them in upside down and they’re really, firmly stuck like that. Oh well … at least they’re positioned inoffensively. And my new racks pull out just fine! Yay!

  5. Can’t wait to see how it turns out! My oven needs to be cleaned pretty badly and I have all those things already ;)

  6. Looks like you’ve got the wrong size oven racks in there. Not that you care, at this point – it’s the next tenant’s problem! But you might be able to get them out by using a hammer to knock up the back end from below.

    • Crunchy Betty

      Upside down! They’re upside down. I finally figured it out today when I was looking at my “new” oven and how the racks go in. I might try the hammer thing, anyway, just to make it all perfect for the new peeps.

  7. 1) I agree with others that your racks may be the wrong size. However, my second point…

    2) Your racks are in the oven backwards.

    3) You must be psychic, because I have Saturday marked out to clean the oven. It’s supposed to be pretty and I could air out the house and throw the dogs (and myself) outside while the chemicals did nasty, toxic magic. Now I don’t have to use oven cleaner!

    • Crunchy Betty

      Okay, so, our oven now (the “new” one) is almost identical to the old one, and the racks are the same. And I figured it out. They fit just fine, except they’re upside down! I can see how someone got confused (except for the part where they must have HAMMERED those things in), because the little groovies match up when they’re upside down, in terms of shape. But not in terms of functionality. Go figure!

      So you’ll like what I have to say tomorrow. As a preview, I cleaned it out today, but I think that it doesn’t need to sit overnight. I started wiping it out last night, just to see how it was coming along, and it did just as well then as it did when I cleaned it thoroughly tonight. Makes for a less lengthy cleaning time for you on Saturday.

      • Bless you, crunchy lady! I may let it sit overnight anyhow, just in case. I tried cleaning our oven once (it moves with us, you see) with vinegar and baking soda. It just made things worse. Now there’s a baked-on crust of dirty baking soda mess on the floor of the oven, complete with extra grease, and a filmy door. It discouraged me forever more. Oven-cleaning fear… I sharez it.

        Your comment made me smile when I saw it this morning, and I really needed a reason to smile today. Thanks, dear. Looking forward to the results!

  8. Kaye

    I’m a pretty regular baker (and a compulsive cleaner), so I clean my oven every few weeks. I just scrub it well with baking soda, add some vinegar, then leave it for a while to work foamy miracles of cleaning joy. Then I wipe it out with a damp towel.

    When I first moved in, there was a lot more scrubbing that happened…

  9. I see your “self-cleaning oven” is a bit different than mine. I take out the racks, wipe down the inside of the door, lock the door, push a button that says “Clean”, turn on the kitchen fan and open a window, and 4 hours later it beeps that its done. Then I just wipe out the inside with a damp cloth. Your self-cleaning oven is different in that yourself cleans it.

    Anyways, as for the racks: slide them out as far as they’ll go (gently! you don’t want to jam them) then tilt the end you’re holding up towards you a bit. The edge should go under that divot piece. I don’t think they’re in backwards though.

    • Crunchy Betty

      Ugh. They were in upside down. I figured it out while looking at our “new” oven. I have no idea how whoever shoved them in there made it happen. They’re wedged in but good.

      I’m so using that “self-cleaning oven” bit sometime. SO true. You’re lucky to have a real one. Must be nice to be a part of the modern world. Hehe.

  10. I’m with you! I’ve never cleaned an oven! And not just because I was afraid of the chemicals…more just because I’m lazy. Anyhow, I do realize that I need to start cleaning my oven myself and I really hope this works…because I don’t want to use anything gross! Can’t wait to hear about it tomorrow!

  11. Ooooh… you share my secret shame! I have a self-cleaning doohickey on my oven but I’ve only used it once (stinks up the place bad). Can’t wait to see the results of your experiment (or is that what you’re cleaning out of the oven?).

    Hard to tell from the photo but it’s possible that your oven racks were shoved in backwards and got stuck. Not by you of course! Former tenants!

    • Ok…duh. You figured out the oven rack thing already. This is what happens when I open a tab in the morning and don’t get around to commenting until evening… and don’t reload the page first. :P I’m glad that part of your oven ordeal has worked out well. :)

  12. Krista

    Just in case it’s helpful for next time, I was able to find this thing like a pumice stone, called a “kitchen stone.” You use it in a little water, and it’s made out of some sort of recycled stuff that scrubs and wears away, but is safe and rinses off cleanly… I had GREAT results with it on our old apt’s oven. :) There’s also a “bathroom stone,” made by the same people; I assume something’s different about its composition, from the kitchen stone, since they’re marketed separately… but anyway, we used that together with a pumice stone, depending on which would fit better in what sort of angles we were trying to reach, and it did a rockin’ job scrubbing the years of mineral deposits off our toilet. Stuff no other cleaner we felt safe using really touched.

    And aha! I just found the company name that makes those recycled-whatever “stones” (Google is back on speaking terms with me tonight): they’re by “Earthstone,” (and the “kitchenstone” and “bathroomstone” product names are actually one word each). Anyway, in our experience, they work GREAT. :) Have fun! :)

    • Jazmine B

      I’ve heard of them before, but I haven’t actually seen them “in the flesh.” They could be the same but by labeling them differently, you wouldn’t be using the stone in the toilet, and then having someone coming up behind you and using the same stone in the kitchen.

  13. Jaz

    Sorry but this is not Non-toxic as borax is highly toxic : O

    • Crunchy Betty

      Actually, borax (sodium borate) isn’t acutely toxic. Boric acid, however, can be (and the two are often confused). I’ve researched online and torn my library apart to find out the truth about whether or not borax is acutely toxic (and it seems that the only place it really is, is on a handful of websites), long before I ever started using it for anything. Finally, I decided to use the most authoritative source on whether or not borax is “highly toxic,” and the MSDS (material safety data sheet) plainly states it is not acutely toxic, though it can be dangerous at high levels. It lists it with a health hazard rating of 1, which is the same as baking soda and salt. So, with proper handling and judicious use (just like with baking soda or salt, even), for me, it’s fine. A much safer, and natural, alternative to other cleaners out there.

      Here’s the MSDS on salt: http://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php?msdsId=9927593
      baking soda: http://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php?msdsId=9927258
      and borax: http://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php?msdsId=9924967

  14. Pamela

    i like to use a combo of baking soda + lemon juice…mix it up til it makes a good paste, spread it on the gunk in the oven and let it set for a while. might have to repeat a few times, but it cleans really well and doesn’t have a horrible smell. just be careful to watch the bubbling up when you first mix them together… :)

    just found your blog and love it…it’s great to know what you can do with stuff you already know is good for your body.

    • jenallen

      Great idea, just did the lemon/bkg soda mix. One hour scrubbing got me 90% there on a VERY dirty oven. WARNING though, if the mixture sits on your oven door and is thin enough to seep through(as mine was), it can discolor the middle part of your oven door. Reaction of the acid on the metal I suppose. Just keep a close eye that it doesn’t accumulate enough liquid to run through. Awesome method, much safer than chem, especially with little kids in the house!

    • kaylen

      Wetting the baking soda with lemon juice is the same as wetting the baking soda with water but you get a chemical reaction first and the lemon juice ends up not doing anything except becoming higher in ph. So a waste of lemon juice and you probably have to use more baking soda.

  15. Laurie

    I just came across your site and am loving it! I had to laugh hysterically at this post because, like you, I’m 35 and have never cleaned an oven. For exactly the same reasons as you – plus I’m lazy. I’ve lived in this house for 8 years, plus the lady who lived here before used the oven to write a cake cookbook, plus the oven is original to the house which means it’s from the 1960′s. I’ll definitely have to try this recipe since I have all the ingredients on hand.

  16. Terran

    I dont have a cleaning story, but I do have advice so you dont HAVE To clean your oven often, like, maybe once a year, and it’s doesn’t get nasty.

    Most of the gunk in the oven that has to be cleaned is on the bottom, so, line the bottom of the oven with Aluminum foil (yeah I had to sound it out like the Brits say it to spell it right). Then, if you have a spasmatic fire alarm, like mine, that goes off if you sneeze hard, you just change out the tin foil (I gave up) when ever it gets dirty. Balling up tin foil (which you can recycle) when your oven gets dirty and replacing it is a LOT less time consuming then scrubbing the heck out of it when you remember (or your fire alarm reminds you)!
    Obviously this wont happen with the sides or the doors, but since you are removing the gunk on a normal basis you shouldn’t have that much build up from the burn off – I dont have anything on them after 2 years.
    Also – if you dont like using the tin foil, you can use a removable pizza stone. It not only can be removed to wash it (maybe even in the dish washer or just soaked forever) but it will also help your oven cook more evenly.

    Hope this helps the hopeless out there who hate cleaning their oven!

  17. I used the self cleaning heat in my oven once every winter. It really heats up the house though! I don’t like to leave the house when I know my oven is getting to a thousand hundred degrees so doing it in the winter is a must. Usually right after Christmas. The first two times I did it, it did STINK. But now it doesn’t. Maybe the “new” oven smells are gone?

    I like the idea of having a non-toxic cleaner for during the summer. Plus if you have an oven with the Heat self cleaning there are two rules that I’ve heard of. One: NEVER use toxic chemicals in your oven. I guess the heat will later make them worse and kill you. 2. Do the cycle without the wracks in… I guess they aren’t rated to a thousand hundred degrees. (Or how ever hot it really gets.)

  18. NoraR

    One word….CitraSolv….cured ALL of my oven cleaning ills, without the overnight wait (I used this method in the past), without scrubbing (just wipe down with a damp sponge (repeat if it’s really bad), & leaves the house smelling like an orange grove.  It’s all natural…got mine at Good Earth Health Food Store…totally worth the $$ & a little goes a long way.

  19. Mrsdavis

    Your racks were installed upside-down! That might have something to do with why they won’t come out :)

  20. Lisa Lendermon

    Just came across your post and I’m going to try this on my stove top!  It’s got caked on cooked on goo from years of me not cleaning it properly.  Can’t wait to see if it works!

  21. Uwerenotnivited

    They are upside down..if up pry upwards enough in the center of the rack, or push down enough they should bend slightly(yet temporarily) and should come out. Albeit, they wont be coming out the right way..I found out that they could come out this way when I place two 20+ pound turkeys on the same rack for Thanksgiving one year and the both of them, along with the rack ended up in the bottom of the oven. Needless to say there was smoke from all those dripping spilled in the bottom of my brand new oven, but thanks to the hidden burner, there was no real fire. Seriously, we opened the doors and it looked like hiroshima over my house. Dinner was saved and a fabulous new way to cook turkey was adopted at my house as one of the two ended up on the bbq grill:) Anyways, as I said, they will bow under pressure and dislodge, but they may need to be hot as well. Good Luck!:)

  22. twinkleove4

    Ur oven racks are in upside down that’s y they won’t come out

  23. Ok, I tried this today. I DID NOT leave it on overnight…it was not possible. My oven does require cleaning and I had some time today, and I want to know how much work this will be in the future so here is what I learned:

    1) If your oven is not too dirty, you can get by leaving the stuff sit for 4 hours. 

    2) DO NOT go crazy with the baking soda! You will have to mop this stuff up later. All soda must be wet for this to work properly, or else you have to clean dry chunky soda off the walls of your oven, and you just make work for yourself. I used the whole recipe of cleaner for my oven since I was going back and trying to soak down small piles of soda.

    3) A few drops of dish soap is enough; the 1/8th cup I used was too much, and it required a lot of rinsing.

    4) It does not do as good a job on the back of the oven (or at least the back of my oven). I used a green scrubbie for the sides and the few black spots on the bottom, but the back of my oven has lots of splatter and i am not sure if more than 4 hours would have helped. The rest of the oven looks pretty good considering the stuff did not sit overnight.

    5) I am very pleased with the results, and so very, very, happy that I was not breathing in those awful fumes today while wiping the oven out. Thank you for the recipe!!!

    There are no instructions for the racks. I have read about using a rag soaked in ammonia and throwing the whole thing into a garbage bag overnight (leave this outside), but I have no ammonia, and I am not sure about that smell or its toxicity vs. oven cleaner, so I hope someone has another solution before they start to bother me and try something crazy to clean them…

  24. The most important thing is that it is home made…So we can use it…Because it cannot be harmful.

  25. jenni2sweet7

    how much baking soda?

  26. Andria

    Ok this did NOT work. Now I am left with a mess of baking soda that I need to try and et out of the oven and still have to find a way to et grease out of oven. Grrrr. Waste of time.

    • kaylen

      I had a similar experience, though it was a lot of scrubbing and then wiping down and wiping down to get the grease and the baking soda out. This was just the baking soda and water method, though.

  27. Yep, they are in upside down. I looked at mine to be sure. I have an idea, tie on a good size rope on both sides of the rack so you can put on both sides instead of wedging it in worse (but I’m not sure that’s possible), put a board across the door (2×4) so as not to bend the metal and then use a crow bar to get it out. I thought about using a come along…. lol… but decided that was a little overboard. So let me know if you get them out.

    I HAD a self cleaning oven until the door quit locking. So now it won’t clean. So I scraped the piled high charred food off the bottom (I bake pies so it was BAD) and will mix up the solution today and let you know how it goes.

    I love the part about goggles and rope… just like going caving or spelunking.

    Bird Lady USA

  28. lynda B

    first of all….the oven racks. lift up from the back about an inch or so, tilt up.

  29. holly cope

    Im trying your oven cleaner and I found you very amusing. Lol. Im going to tie myself off and get right in there. Wish me luck !!! Lol

  30. Tiff

    I think the racks are in there backward.
    Thanks for the cleaning ideas, by the way :)

  31. patty

    I use this recipe for cleaning ovens every time we relocate, and it works!!!!!!! Every time! I just leave the solution soaking into the oven over night and viola! CLEAN! I just have to wipe out the the dried baking soda out and debris and I’m done!

  32. Did it work???? It is now December 19, 2013, and I need to clean my oven tonight. Did Betty’s recipe work???

  33. Nancy craft

    “Do not run the self-cleaning cycle on ovens when birds are around. Self-cleaning ovens are lined with PTFE (Teflon) and reach 900 degrees Fahrenheit during the self-cleaning cycle and emit gasses into the air that kill birds rather quickly.”

    If you’ve read “Slow Death by Rubber Duck”, you understand how dangerous teflon is.

    So much for self-cleaning. My fiance and I aborted the procedure because we were choking last time I tried to run it. Trying to find something non toxic, as I suffered through Stage 4 ovarian cancer last year and beat it.

    No more chemicals for me. How to convince neighbors not to use lawn chemicals?

  34. Sheila F

    I think the reason your oven racks are stuck could be that they are in upside down. Someone might have jammed them in this way, and maybe that’s why. I’m not positive, but I’m pretty sure the side where the ‘rod’ part going in the opposite direction is not flush should be on the bottom. Hope you got them out, and also that your homemade oven cleaner worked. :)

  35. Christine

    Hey there Crunchy Betty – OEC’s Living Green newsletter linked to this article. It’s dated 2011 and you said you’d post your results the next day. Think you could write an update? I’d love to hear your results.

  36. Kendra

    This worked pretty well for me today. Thank you.

    It looks like your racks are inserted upside down.

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